阿格尼的訪談 Interview with Agani
訪者：Irma Roksen Lulu & Roko, 於蓮華聖能中心十週年慶, 11/2015 (English below)
或多或少可以說，我沒有旅程，因為我轉世就沒有忘記我自己。所以當我還是小孩時，就已經像現在這樣了。(I: 你是說你總是知道?) 是的，當我還小的時候，我就知曉事情了。我在嬰兒時就被領養，養父母每天忙於工作，從來沒有人質疑過這個能力，他們只會運用它。所以在我13歲以前，他們很高興我可以看到未來、知道事情，可以在生意方面等等的給他們意見。
我想首先並且最重要的一步是，這不在明天，在今天。（I: 什麼？……A: 不在明天，在今天）。人們等著，要到明天才能快樂：首先我們要先買輛新車，然後是孩子要讀書，然後要買房子，最後要等我們退休的那一天，我們才有時間快樂。不，快樂的唯一時機在今天，不要等到明天。
(Agni 校聽寫稿，Shamba ＆ Roma Hueiwen Lu 翻譯）
（初發表於 2016/6/4 臉書）
By Irma Roksen Lulu & Roko, on 10th Anniversary of Lotus Shakti Center Taiwan
More or less I don’t have a journey, because I incarnated and I didn’t forget myself, so I was as a child already like I am now. (I: you always knew?) Yes, I always knew things when I was a child. As I was adopted as a baby and my parents worked all day, nobody questioned this ability. They only used it. So until I was 13, they were happy that I could see future and know things so could advice them for business whatever.
When I became 13 they said “now you grow up. You are allowed to smoke, to drink, have girlfriend whatever. But you are not allowed to see future anymore, because adults don’t do that. This is not nature.” Somebody told me that. I thought, everybody could do that. We all of one origin. Shouldn’t everyone be capable of seeing aura, talking to angels, other beings, talking plants, animals? I was pretty sure everybody can do that. I first learned I shouldn’t do that, not good for adults.
But it took me another a year, and I was first time alone on a vacation in London and I was 14. I was sitting at a discotheque and there was a beautiful girls leaning up against the wall. I looked at them and thought, “it would be so nice”, I said to myself, “if you would slide down the wall and lie on the floor”. And so they did. I thought, OK my parents were right, I shouldn’t stop that (laugh).......So I tried to stop it for three years.
And when I was 17, it came to strong that I had to make it my focus again to work with people. So from 17 to 19 I did more fortune telling stuff. But it was no fun to know future without changing it. So like I had a girl came for questions, and I saw that she will have a car accidents. So I told her “tomorrow you will have a car accident, and it will be pretty bad.” And she had this accident. So some think, maybe she has it because I told her ~ self-fulfilling prophecy. I saw an accident of another girl, didn´t tell her, and she the accident anyway. So it’s not self-fulfilling prophecy.. Why should I look at the future if I can’t change it. It’s boring. If you know you have strawberries tomorrow, but today you don’t have any taste of it, it makes no sense knowing it. The last fortune telling i gave a young couple, who wanted to get married and came to me when I was 19. “We want to marry. Can you tell us things of our future?” I saw she will have five kids and he will have three. So what to tell them? “You will have kids. (laugh)” So then I stopped telling future to people as it makes no sense.
So I went more into healing, teaching healing, teaching meditation and love and expending light, stuff like these. Well I studied law at that time. I start to work as a medical professional, like acupuncture, chiropractic, healing arts, and they asked me in Sri Lanka to become a professor for Chinese medicine. So I taught that a little bit and I had my clinic in Germany. And it was boring again because people come and said: Oh I have problem. They always look for problems and get so dramatic. Somebody entered the room and pointed there and there. The always focus on seeing problems. I think is far more love sharing if you see potential. I say, OK, if you go to your potential, the problem is already gone. If you leave the place where the problem has to be, instead of doing therapy and go around your problems and problems……stop focusing on the weak part of you and start focusing on your potential where you are strong and where you can heal it. Forgive yourself.
I changed icy working ambitions when I was forty, I stopped working in healing arts and did more teachings in how to develop peoples potential. That’s still fun. So I found path into light, Acc Consultant, Spiritual Teachesr and some healing schools. But I didn’t do any teaching for ten years. Because now there are so many things there and so many good people trained. I sit back and waited for something new. In this dawning of the golden age, new knowledge is available to teach to the people. New dimension are opening up. So far nobody’s here to teach them but me. So I do it until somebody comes and says ‘hey I can take that job!’ As there are a lot of young people out there who would be so fantastic, who are now teens or younger and they will develop so much knowledge because no body put a break on them. I am pretty happy that in some years new generation will hit us and I can sit back and see them do the work.
The Path into Light
The path into light, I found it about twenty years ago. Seeing people have no idea that they have a light body and they can develop their light, can be so nature like brushing your teeth everyday. Checking your chakra system and seeing if you are in balance. If you are not in balance so bring yourself back in balance. It’s all needing healing as a therapeutic adventure again. Do it you yourself. Get used to that you are a light body, you are a soul living your life, and that you are here for a purpose. And always reconnect to yourself.
Many things don’ t need any healing anymore, because healing means that you are on your path, healing means you are free from boundaries. Healing itself the best to say is being free. Being free can only come from yourself. Can’t come from any therapy, can’t come from any Guru. It only can come from your heart. The best what you can do to anybody is to say: be yourself. There’s only one way - it’s your own. Meet yourself on your way then do your path.
Be happy. And I think everybody should be happy and everybody should have the ability to be happy. Anybody who teaches things out of smile without of being happy, don’t trust. I don’t trust people who don’t smile. Why should I follow any rule which makes you not happy? Think there’s an easy way to look at any life task: does it make you happy? Can’t be wrong. Does it make you not happy? Can’t be right. If everybody only does things that make happy, I think the world will be a super great place.
Finding out what we really want to do in life
I think the first and most important step is, it is not tomorrow, it is today. (I: what?… Agni: not tomorrow, it is today). People wait to be happy for tomorrow. First we have to buy a new car, then we have to educate our children, then we have to pay for our house, and then one day we will retire and we will have time to be happy. No, the only time to be happy is today. So let’s not waiting for tomorrow.
So if you start right now as this second, from now on I only do things that make me happy. I do work that I enjoy, I love the people that I love, I be with people I love to love, I want to share happiness with those who also want to share happiness. There are also ones who don’t. Life will change dramatically right now to the right direction. And this doesn’t need any school. Just need your decision and follow your own decision.
People like to dream but not to make the dream come true. Because they fear if the dream comes true, there’s nothing else to do. And so they start the dream, and they don’t manifest it. They start the next dream, and they don’t manifest it. Then looking back they say, “oh what do I do with my time here? I didn’t enjoy the ride.” And we are here to enjoy the ride. Whatever our individual path is, we have to enjoy to be fulfilled at the end. AND I think this is the major thing: make it today.
Our real path
Well the real path, you are already on there. Your real path is in this life. As long as there’s life in you, you haven’t fulfilled the path. You are still on your mission. And you have your body, your mind, your ability to love, your ability to be happy, the ability to share all that. There’s nothing you need. You have everything. You brought all the tools with you. They are all inside you. You just have to allow yourself to unwrap the tools and use them in your daily life.
So religion, if you translate it as a word, means ‘origin’. The main reason for religion is to remember you that you are of divine origin. If a religion does that and remembers you that you are a divine being, you already know you there’s nothing to suffer. But politics are using religions as a method of suppressing people. “So if you want to come to heaven, do what I told you.” “You have to suffer now, so in paradise you will be free ….” That’s all bullshit. Remember people what their origins are, that they are divine beings. Forget suffering. Suffering is not fulfilling your task. If a religion makes you suffer, it’s helping you not to fulfill your task. So some said “it’s good to be born in church, but not good to die in one (laugh)”
About love and fear
Two things: one is that everybody wants to be happy, and everybody has a contact level where he would enjoy to be guided to happiness, or to be guided to love again. But the first step we already miss is that we don’t allow people to make us joy.
I have a very nice experience with French police. So when we open Amritabha, they thought we are Muslims, so they have their secret service, secret police, state police, local police investigating on us. So for two years, everyday police came and brought us letters from the city, from the state, and something new we have to do, we have to do, we have to do. And I was teaching a seminar and secretary came around and said “you have to come down, police again at the door”. So I went three floors down walking, and when I arrived at the office, police were standing there. I said: “How good to see you! What kind of joy you want to give me today?” And they look at each other, and thought nobody has ever said that to them! And they stared to smile. From this day on, we have become friends! They came running motorcycles with us. They came walking with us. From the day,
everything was soft, because “oh we are allowed to make them joy”.
Yes you can do me joy, and I will do you joy too. But nobody said that they are allowed to give joy, they are only allowed to give fear to people. And if you do it in daily life, we all need help in some days, and can give help in another days. But remember, people are allowed to give us joy. So they are so happy as they do, can do that “oh I really can help you. Really I’m so happy I can do something for you” So same with ourselves. Somebody says “can you show me how to be happy?” “Oh you allow me to show you. I’m so happy I can do that”. So giving the allowance to yourself, to receive joy, to receive help, already changes people who are angry at you. Because everyone says I fear this guy, I fear this guy, I fear this …..I fear this….I fear this thief. Nobody says, oh you can help me. Bring me joy. In their whole life they didn’t hear that. so allow them. “oh I can do that. I can give joy. Nobody ever told me. Maybe I can change my life too, enjoying other people and showing happiness. ” I saw it so many times. Yeah you can do that, you are allowed to love again.
So many people lived under shadowed side for 20,000 years, since Atlantis. And nobody told them they can go back and love again. They always thought Ok we stay in the dark side forever. We have been through hell. People coming back from wars like afkanistan, or Iraq, isreal…. They have been through hell, and nobody reminds them that they still are allowed to love. They saw bad things. They did bad things. But still there’s a door open to their own hearts. But nobody remembers them. The refugees come full of dramas, and they said, you need blankets, you need food, your need tents..of course the bodies need to be nourished. But the more is your heart needs to be nourished. There’s future of you. You can love again. You will find people who will love you. You will find happiness again, which will make more difference than some food or some blankets.
Do what is good for you
In our soul, we never left anything. The returning point is that we stop forgetting who we are. We are who we are. And the main concern of humanity is that everybody starts to do what is good for her/himself. The whole society will be changed. The only step we need in consciousness is, ok please everybody do what is good for you. And there we will do what is good for our partner, for family, for community, for country, for earth. Because when I hurt somebody, it’s not good for you. If I destroy the forest, it’s not good for me. If I destroy ocean, it’s not good for me. I have to do good for myself, and I have to do good for everything.
What comes next
You want to be always on the road again! “Yeah, which universe you haven’t been to, let’s go there (laugh)”. We all have our homeland in heaven, and everybody has his own place in heaven. That’s your own place forever. But we come to earth to experience that we can manifest ourselves in a material structure, not only in light. So it is like in like in the song from Frank Sinatra:“New York,“ :“If you can do it here, you can do it everywhere.“ It is easy to do things in Heaven But when you incarnate on Earh, you have to experience that you can do it on Earth. You can be happy on earth. You can be love on earth. You can be all light one earth.
A big Hug
Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.
(Transcribed by Shamba & Roma Hueiwen Lu, edited by Agni Eickermann)
(First released on FB 2016/6/4)